Talk:.45 Schofield

Serious Sam

I'm just a newbie, so bear with me.

The video game Serious Sam had as its base weapon a revolver chambered in .45 Schofield, I'd like to add that to this entry, but am not sure if such an addition would be rules-compliant.

I await the decision of the masses.

According to the guidelines, it doesn't really fit, unless the game somehow had an affect on the cartridge in question, which of course in this case it did not. Arthurrh 03:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

45 Schofield usable in Colt revolvers?

I was under that impression that 45 Schofield ammunition cannot be used directly in Colt SAA revolvers -- the cartridge rim is too large and it hangs up the mechanism. The US Army issued a compromise cartridge designed to work in either gun, featuring a shorter case (so it would fit in the S&W revolver) and a narrower rim (so it would fit in the Colt). This compromise cartridge reputedly was not terribly reliable in either gun. This information is from my memory, so if anyone can track down sources to confirm or clarify the matter, it would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.107.185.23 (talk) 23:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're memory is correct. The Army issued the "Revolver Ball Cartridge, Caliber .45 M1875" which was a hybrid, with a 45 Colt rim and a 45 Schofield case length. It was not accurate in the Colt Single Action Army, and would not extract reliably in the Schofield revolver (Smith & Wesson No. 3 Revolver). Rim diameter does not figure into extraction in the Single Action Army because it uses a rod to push the cartridge out. The 45 Schofield cartridge had to be loaded into every other cylinder in a Single Action Army revolver because of the rim diameter. The cartridge that was issued could be loaded into adjacent chambers. ^[1]

There is a picture on the .45 Colt page that includes a box marked "12 Revolver Ball Cartridges, Calibre .45, Frankford Aresenal, 1876," an original 45 Colt cartridge, an original "Revolver Ball Cartridge" as issued, and a modern commercial 45 Colt cartridge. You can plainly see in the picture that the rim on the "Revolver Ball Cartridge" is identical to that on the 45 Colt cartridge, and is most certainly not a 45 Schofield rim. DrHenley (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Cartridges of the World, by Frank C. Barnes in his notes I presume , he indicates the .45 Schofield Cartridge was adopted in 1875 along with the Pistol about 8,000 were produced for the IVth U.S. Calvary, IX th U.S. U.S. Calvary and Xth U.S. Calvary. He also indicates that the Rim Diameter was increased to about .520 or .522 And meanwhile the .45 Colt Government the bastardized. 45 Colt/Schofield, its rim diameter was made smaller .506 Meantime I read that the .45 Schofield Ammunition had a smaller rim and would slide forward and out of reach of the Colt Single Army Firing pin, so troopers would have rattle the cartridges back into proper seating alignment. And that the. 45 Colt Government was developed to fit both pistols , and meanwhile Smith & Wesson increased the rim of their cartridge to resolve the issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark S. tercsak (talk • contribs) 17:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ McChristian, Douglas C. (2006) [2006]. The U.s. Army in the West, 1870-1880 (8th Edition ed.). University of Oklahoma Press. p. 122. ISBN 978-0-8061-3782-7. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help)

henry rifle and little bighorn results

in the info stating that had all of custer's men at the battle of the little bighorn had the schofield,the results may have been different,it states the henry rifle was used by indians against single shot trapdoor carbines.Contest me if i am wrong but while this was true,it seems irrelavent to the schofield revolver and cartridge,while this is worth mentioning in the schofield cartridge page,the trapdoor and henry again seem irrelavent,though worth mentioning in the wikipedian pages about the henry and trapdoor carbine.and also,i can contest that results would not have been different with all of custer's men having the schofield.As a fan of fixed cylinder revolvers,I admit that in a gunfight,the top break or swing out offer an advantage in the form of fast reloading.Many of custer's men had the great colt single action army,a fixed cylinder revolver,and if they had schofields,perhaps they still would have lost,but with more indians down or something...thanks,cheers,Keserman (talk) 19:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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--JeffGBot (talk) 13:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[cotw-1] McChristian, Douglas C. (2006) [2006]. The U.s. Army in the West, 1870-1880 (8th Edition ed.). University of Oklahoma Press. p. 122. ISBN 978-0-8061-3782-7. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help)

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